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Strawberries513 -

I was wondering if 君 is ever used as "you" (fml) in mandarin. I know it is used quite often in
Japanese (kimi), but I have never heard of it being used as such in Mandarin (though my dictionary
says it can be)

does anyone know about this? like when and if it is used that way?



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Quest -

君不见....yaddyaddyadda
It's an ancient usage, not used in modern Mandarin.










skylee -

yaddyaddyadda = 黃河之水天上來，奔流到海不復回

Also

yaddyaddyadda = 高堂明鏡悲白髮，朝如青絲暮成雪












Jose -

Incidentally, there is now a version of Wikipedia in Classical Chinese. I have noticed that the
messages in the interface sometimes address the user as 君 and sometimes as 汝 (as in the
汝知之乎, did you know...? section). Is there any difference between 君 and 汝?










Ian_Lee -

何日君再來 ??
聽君一席話，勝讀十年書!
有仇不報非君子!
“癮”君子
君子好逑
君子之交
--phrases always used/quoted in vernacular Chinese










Ian_Lee -

執汝之手，與汝偕老
-- 汝 is more intimate than 君










skylee -



Quote:

執汝之手，與汝偕老

shouldn't it be 子 instead of 汝?










djwebb2004 -

I have a book by Yi Zhongtian where he addresses the readers as "读者诸君"










againstwind -



Quote:

I was wondering if 君 is ever used as "you" (fml) in mandarin.

Yes, it is, nay, more meaning than 'you'.

In modern Manderine, 君 should contain two meanings at least:

1) The sovrans of monarchies.
e.g. 君主 | 君权 | 君临天下

2）a couth honorific call to sb. , both are acceptable for 2nd person and 3rd person. Very
literarily.
e.g. 听君一席话，胜读十年书。
送君千里，终须一别。 (Must have a farewell even have accompanied thee for thousands of
miles.)
张君 (Sir. Zhang) | 李君 (Sir. Li) | 诸君 (you,thou,thee)

In fact, the two usages are the same to those in classical Chinese. In classical Chinese,besides
the two above, 君 also means 君子(Noble men or the moral).




Quote:

Is there any difference between 君 and 汝?

In classical Chinese, if 君 refers to you, they should be similar, I think.
Like old English thou or thee.
e.g.
“今君有一窟， 未得高枕而卧也。” ——《战国策.齐策七》
“君当作盘石，妾当作蒲苇。” ——《为焦仲卿妻作》
汝为何人？
汝等小人安知张君之志？


As for 君 in Japanese, it comes in for classical Chinese.










vivian11 -

Againstwind know Chinese culture very well. 君 is only used in acient Chinese.If you call someone
君 nowadays in China，she or he will feel odd.
In classical Chinese,there is a tiny different between 君 and 汝.On my mind,君 is formaler than
汝.汝 is a synonym of 你.And 君 is pretty much like 您.












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